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  3. DeepSeek Coder V2 vs Qwen3.8 27B

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 16, 2026

DeepSeek Coder V2 vs Qwen3.8 27B benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, Qwen3.8 27B delivers higher overall intelligence and human-preferred responses (Elo 1,398 vs 1,365), while DeepSeek Coder V2 leads in SWE-bench software engineering benchmarks (60.5%), while DeepSeek Coder V2 is more budget-friendly at $0.28/1M per 1M output tokens, while Qwen3.8 27B provides faster response streaming (152 tok/s). Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Choose Qwen3.8 27B if your priority is peak reasoning, complex code generation, and top preference Elo. Choose DeepSeek Coder V2 if you are optimizing for low latency, high throughput, and cost-efficient API deployment.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

10 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

DeepSeek Coder V2 (3)Qwen3.8 27B (7)
DeepSeek Coder V2
3 of 10 Wins
✓Coding Elo✓SWE-bench✓Output price
Qwen3.8 27B
7 of 10 Wins
✓Preference Elo✓LiveBench✓GPQA Diamond✓Time to first token✓Output speed✓Input price✓Context window
DeepSeek
Leads 3 of 10 metrics
DeepSeek Coder V2

DeepSeek open-weight Mixture-of-Experts coding model supporting 338 programming languages and 128k context.

Elo 1,365$0.28/1M out
Alibaba
Leads 7 of 10 metrics
Qwen3.8 27B

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop dated Aug 14 2026. Dense enough to self-host; not a frontier MoE.

27B DenseElo 1,398$0.4/1M out
Top Rival Showdowns for DeepSeek Coder V2
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs GPT-5vs Gemini 3 Provs Grok 4.6vs Qwen 3 Max
Preference LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

Δ 33 Arena Elo pts

Throughput LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

152 tok/s

Value per Dollar LeaderDeepSeek Coder V2 Wins

DeepSeek Coder V2

$0.28 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top Western standard models with China's leading frontier rival across 6 skill dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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Percentile 0–100
Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

DeepSeek Coder V2 (3)vsQwen3.8 27B (7)
DeepSeek Coder V2: 3W (30%)Overall: Qwen3.8 27BQwen3.8 27B: 7W (70%)
← DeepSeek Coder V2Qwen3.8 27B →
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(3/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
DeepSeek Coder V2vsQwen3.8 27B
Preference Elo
1,365vs1,398+33
Coding Elo
1,442vs1,422+20
SWE-bench
60.5%vs58.8%+1.7%
LiveBench
58.6%vs60.6%+2%
GPQA Diamond
70.2%vs73.4%+3.2%
DeepSeek Coder V2: 2WQwen3.8 27B: 3W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
DeepSeek Coder V2vsQwen3.8 27B
Output speed
75 tok/svs152 tok/s+77 tok/s
Time to first token
290 msvs140 ms+150 ms
DeepSeek Coder V2: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 2W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
DeepSeek Coder V2vsQwen3.8 27B
Output price
$0.28/1Mvs$0.4/1M+$0.12/1M
Input price
$0.14/1Mvs$0.1/1M+$0.04/1M
Context window
128kvs131k+3k
DeepSeek Coder V2: 1WQwen3.8 27B: 2W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo+33
DeepSeek Coder V21,365
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Coding Elo+20
DeepSeek Coder V21,442
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
LiveBench+2%
DeepSeek Coder V258.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
SWE-bench+1.7%
DeepSeek Coder V260.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
GPQA Diamond+3.2%
DeepSeek Coder V270.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Time to first token+150 ms
DeepSeek Coder V2290 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output speed+77 tok/s
DeepSeek Coder V275 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Input price+$0.04/1M
DeepSeek Coder V2$0.14/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output price+$0.12/1M
DeepSeek Coder V2$0.28/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Context window+3k
DeepSeek Coder V2128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
BenchmarkDeepSeek Coder V2Qwen3.8 27BAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,365
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+33
Coding Elo
1,442
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+20
LiveBench
58.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+2%
SWE-bench
60.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+1.7%
GPQA Diamond
70.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+3.2%
Time to first token
290 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+150 ms
Output speed
75 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+77 tok/s
Input price
$0.14/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$0.04/1M
Output price
$0.28/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$0.12/1M
Context window
128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+3k
Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 4% with DeepSeek Coder V2
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
DeepSeek Coder V2$9.10 / mo
In: $4.9Out: $4.2
Qwen3.8 27B$9.50 / mo
In: $3.5Out: $6
Estimated Cost Delta

DeepSeek Coder V2 is estimated to save $0.40/month ($5/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    DeepSeek Coder V2:Pick DeepSeek Coder V2 when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.
  • 3
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B as the default general assistant.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsDeepSeek Coder V2

Higher SWE-bench (60.5%).

High-volume chatDeepSeek Coder V2

Lower output list price ($0.28/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27B

Lower TTFT (140 ms).

Long-document RAGQwen3.8 27B

Larger window (131k).

Screenshots / visionQwen3.8 27B

Qwen3.8 27B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsDeepSeek Coder V2Higher SWE-bench (60.5%).
High-volume chatDeepSeek Coder V2Lower output list price ($0.28/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27BLower TTFT (140 ms).
Long-document RAGQwen3.8 27BLarger window (131k).
Screenshots / visionQwen3.8 27BQwen3.8 27B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

View all news
launchAug 14, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop. Local/open-weight lists should see it. It will not win frontier-agents.

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DeepSeek

DeepSeek Coder V2

Elo 1,365
SWE-bench60.5%
Speed (tok/s)75 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.14/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.28/1M
Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Elo 1,398
SWE-bench58.8%
Speed (tok/s)152 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.1/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.4/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, DeepSeek Coder V2 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,398). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, DeepSeek Coder V2 or Qwen3.8 27B?
DeepSeek Coder V2 leads SWE-bench at 60.5% vs 58.8%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
DeepSeek Coder V2 output tokens are $0.28/1M versus $0.4/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, DeepSeek Coder V2 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B has the lower time-to-first-token (140 ms vs 290 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
Qwen3.8 27B accepts 131k tokens versus 128k.
Can I self-host either model?
Both DeepSeek Coder V2 and Qwen3.8 27B are marked open-weights. Hosting cost is not in this table.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. DeepSeek Coder V2 and Qwen3.8 27B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Aug 14, 2026

    Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

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