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  3. DeepSeek V4 Flash vs Qwen3.8 27B

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 16, 2026

DeepSeek V4 Flash vs Qwen3.8 27B benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, DeepSeek V4 Flash delivers higher overall intelligence and human-preferred responses (Elo 1,490 vs 1,398), while DeepSeek V4 Flash leads in SWE-bench software engineering benchmarks (71.2%), while DeepSeek V4 Flash is more budget-friendly at $0.28/1M per 1M output tokens, while Qwen3.8 27B provides faster response streaming (152 tok/s). Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: DeepSeek V4 Flash holds the advantage over Qwen3.8 27B in overall benchmark performance and human evaluation rankings. Choose DeepSeek V4 Flash for demanding workloads, or review the breakdown below to compare coding and pricing metrics.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

10 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

DeepSeek V4 Flash (7)Qwen3.8 27B (3)
DeepSeek V4 Flash
7 of 10 Wins
✓Preference Elo✓Coding Elo✓LiveBench✓SWE-bench✓GPQA Diamond✓Output price✓Context window
Qwen3.8 27B
3 of 10 Wins
✓Time to first token✓Output speed✓Input price
DeepSeek
Leads 7 of 10 metrics
DeepSeek V4 Flash

DeepSeek Jul 31 2026 price-performance SKU. Public listings put it near $0.14/$0.28 per 1M tokens.

V4 Flash SpeedElo 1,490$0.28/1M out
Alibaba
Leads 3 of 10 metrics
Qwen3.8 27B

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop dated Aug 14 2026. Dense enough to self-host; not a frontier MoE.

27B DenseElo 1,398$0.4/1M out

DeepSeek V4 Series Lineage & Sibling Variants

2 models

Currently comparing DeepSeek V4 Flash vs Qwen3.8 27B. Alternative family tiers available.

Active: DeepSeek V4 Flash
DeepSeek V4 Pro$1.6
Top Rival Showdowns for DeepSeek V4 Flash
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs GPT-5vs Gemini 3 Provs Grok 4.6vs Qwen 3 Max
Preference LeaderDeepSeek V4 Flash Wins

DeepSeek V4 Flash

Δ 92 Arena Elo pts

Throughput LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

152 tok/s

Value per Dollar LeaderDeepSeek V4 Flash Wins

DeepSeek V4 Flash

$0.28 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top Western standard models with China's leading frontier rival across 6 skill dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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Percentile 0–100
Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

DeepSeek V4 Flash (7)vsQwen3.8 27B (3)
DeepSeek V4 Flash: 7W (70%)Overall: DeepSeek V4 FlashQwen3.8 27B: 3W (30%)
← DeepSeek V4 FlashQwen3.8 27B →
🏆DeepSeek V4 Flash(5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
DeepSeek V4 FlashvsQwen3.8 27B
Preference Elo
1,490vs1,398+92
Coding Elo
1,516vs1,422+94
SWE-bench
71.2%vs58.8%+12.4%
LiveBench
67.8%vs60.6%+7.2%
GPQA Diamond
81.6%vs73.4%+8.2%
DeepSeek V4 Flash: 5WQwen3.8 27B: 0W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
DeepSeek V4 FlashvsQwen3.8 27B
Output speed
142 tok/svs152 tok/s+10 tok/s
Time to first token
165 msvs140 ms+25 ms
DeepSeek V4 Flash: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 2W
🏆DeepSeek V4 Flash(2/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
DeepSeek V4 FlashvsQwen3.8 27B
Output price
$0.28/1Mvs$0.4/1M+$0.12/1M
Input price
$0.14/1Mvs$0.1/1M+$0.04/1M
Context window
160kvs131k+29k
DeepSeek V4 Flash: 2WQwen3.8 27B: 1W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo+92
DeepSeek V4 Flash1,490
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Coding Elo+94
DeepSeek V4 Flash1,516
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
LiveBench+7.2%
DeepSeek V4 Flash67.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
SWE-bench+12.4%
DeepSeek V4 Flash71.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
GPQA Diamond+8.2%
DeepSeek V4 Flash81.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Time to first token+25 ms
DeepSeek V4 Flash165 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output speed+10 tok/s
DeepSeek V4 Flash142 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Input price+$0.04/1M
DeepSeek V4 Flash$0.14/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output price+$0.12/1M
DeepSeek V4 Flash$0.28/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Context window+29k
DeepSeek V4 Flash160k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
BenchmarkDeepSeek V4 FlashQwen3.8 27BAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,490
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+92
Coding Elo
1,516
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+94
LiveBench
67.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+7.2%
SWE-bench
71.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+12.4%
GPQA Diamond
81.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+8.2%
Time to first token
165 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+25 ms
Output speed
142 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+10 tok/s
Input price
$0.14/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$0.04/1M
Output price
$0.28/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$0.12/1M
Context window
160k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+29k
Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 4% with DeepSeek V4 Flash
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
DeepSeek V4 Flash$9.10 / mo
In: $4.9Out: $4.2
Qwen3.8 27B$9.50 / mo
In: $3.5Out: $6
Estimated Cost Delta

DeepSeek V4 Flash is estimated to save $0.40/month ($5/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    DeepSeek V4 Flash:Pick DeepSeek V4 Flash when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.
  • 3
    DeepSeek V4 Flash:Pick DeepSeek V4 Flash as the default general assistant.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsDeepSeek V4 Flash

Higher SWE-bench (71.2%).

High-volume chatDeepSeek V4 Flash

Lower output list price ($0.28/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27B

Lower TTFT (140 ms).

Long-document RAGDeepSeek V4 Flash

Larger window (160k).

Screenshots / visionDeepSeek V4 Flash

DeepSeek V4 Flash is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsDeepSeek V4 FlashHigher SWE-bench (71.2%).
High-volume chatDeepSeek V4 FlashLower output list price ($0.28/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27BLower TTFT (140 ms).
Long-document RAGDeepSeek V4 FlashLarger window (160k).
Screenshots / visionDeepSeek V4 FlashDeepSeek V4 Flash is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

View all news
launchAug 14, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop. Local/open-weight lists should see it. It will not win frontier-agents.

priceJul 31, 2026

DeepSeek V4 Flash (Jul 31): the $0.14/$0.28 price-performance SKU

Public listings put Flash near $0.14/$0.28 per 1M. That is a batch SKU, not a chatbot crown.

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DeepSeek

DeepSeek V4 Flash

Elo 1,490
SWE-bench71.2%
Speed (tok/s)142 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.14/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.28/1M
Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Elo 1,398
SWE-bench58.8%
Speed (tok/s)152 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.1/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.4/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, DeepSeek V4 Flash or Qwen3.8 27B?
DeepSeek V4 Flash has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,490). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, DeepSeek V4 Flash or Qwen3.8 27B?
DeepSeek V4 Flash leads SWE-bench at 71.2% vs 58.8%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
DeepSeek V4 Flash output tokens are $0.28/1M versus $0.4/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, DeepSeek V4 Flash or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B has the lower time-to-first-token (140 ms vs 165 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
DeepSeek V4 Flash accepts 160k tokens versus 131k.
Can I self-host either model?
Both DeepSeek V4 Flash and Qwen3.8 27B are marked open-weights. Hosting cost is not in this table.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. DeepSeek V4 Flash and Qwen3.8 27B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Aug 14, 2026

    Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

  • price · Jul 31, 2026

    DeepSeek V4 Flash (Jul 31): the $0.14/$0.28 price-performance SKU

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