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  3. Llama 3.1 405B vs Mancer: Weaver (alpha)

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 17, 2026noindex (thin pair)

Llama 3.1 405B vs Mancer: Weaver (alpha) benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, Mancer: Weaver (alpha) is more budget-friendly at $0.75/1M per 1M output tokens. Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Choose Llama 3.1 405B if your priority is peak reasoning, complex code generation, and top preference Elo. Choose Mancer: Weaver (alpha) if you are optimizing for low latency, high throughput, and cost-efficient API deployment.
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Executive Verdict Summary

Mancer: Weaver (alpha) holds empirical advantage (2 of 3 metrics)

Coding / SWESWE-bench
Llama 3.1 405BTop code solve rate
ReasoningGPQA / Live
Llama 3.1 405BTop logical accuracy
Best Value$/1M Tok
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)Lowest API billing cost
Speed / TokTok/Sec
Llama 3.1 405BFastest stream rate

Verified Advantage Breakdown

3 benchmarks evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

Llama 3.1 405B (1)Mancer: Weaver (alpha) (2)
Llama 3.1 405B
1 of 3 Wins
✓Context window
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)
2 of 3 Wins
✓Input price✓Output price
Meta
Leads 1 of 3
Llama 3.1 405B

Meta flagship open-weight 405B dense foundation model with 128k context window.

Elo 1,370In: $1.25 · Out: $3.5/1M
mancer
Leads 2 of 3
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)

Auto-discovered from OpenRouter (mancer/weaver). Preview until a second source matches.

In: $0.5 · Out: $0.75/1M
Top Rival Showdowns for Llama 3.1 405B
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Preference Leader

No shared data

Single model data

Throughput Leader

No shared data

No latency data

Value per Dollar LeaderMancer: Weaver (alpha) Wins

Mancer: Weaver (alpha)

$0.75 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top standard models across 6 key capability dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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0–100 %ile

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

Llama 3.1 405B (8)vsMancer: Weaver (alpha) (2)
Llama 3.1 405B: 8W (80%)Overall: Llama 3.1 405BMancer: Weaver (alpha): 2W (20%)
← Llama 3.1 405BMancer: Weaver (alpha) →
🏆Llama 3.1 405B Leads(5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
Llama 3.1 405BvsMancer: Weaver (alpha)
Preference Elo
1,370vs—
Coding Elo
1,385vs—
SWE-bench
58.4%vs—
LiveBench
61.2%vs—
GPQA Diamond
75.2%vs—
Llama 3.1 405B: 5WMancer: Weaver (alpha): 0W
🏆Llama 3.1 405B Leads(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
Llama 3.1 405BvsMancer: Weaver (alpha)
Output speed
42 tok/svs—
Time to first token
360 msvs—
Llama 3.1 405B: 2WMancer: Weaver (alpha): 0W
🏆Mancer: Weaver (alpha) Leads(2/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
Llama 3.1 405BvsMancer: Weaver (alpha)
Output price
$3.5/1Mvs$0.75/1M+$2.75/1M
Input price
$1.25/1Mvs$0.5/1M+$0.75/1M
Context window
128kvs8k+120k
Llama 3.1 405B: 1WMancer: Weaver (alpha): 2W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Llama 3.1 405BMancer: Weaver (alpha)
Preference Elo
Llama 3.1 405B1,370
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
Coding Elo
Llama 3.1 405B1,385
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
LiveBench
Llama 3.1 405B61.2%
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
SWE-bench
Llama 3.1 405B58.4%
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
GPQA Diamond
Llama 3.1 405B75.2%
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
Time to first token
Llama 3.1 405B360 ms
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
Output speed
Llama 3.1 405B42 tok/s
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)—
Input priceMancer: Weaver (alpha) +$0.75/1M
Llama 3.1 405B$1.25/1M
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)$0.5/1M
Output priceMancer: Weaver (alpha) +$2.75/1M
Llama 3.1 405B$3.5/1M
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)$0.75/1M
Context windowLlama 3.1 405B +120k
Llama 3.1 405B128k
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)8k
BenchmarkLlama 3.1 405BMancer: Weaver (alpha)Advantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,370
lmarena · Aug 17, 2026
——
Coding Elo
1,385
lmarena · Aug 17, 2026
——
LiveBench
61.2%
livebench · Aug 17, 2026
——
SWE-bench
58.4%
swebench · Aug 17, 2026
——
GPQA Diamond
75.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
——
Time to first token
360 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
——
Output speed
42 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
——
Input price
$1.25/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
+$0.75/1M
Output price
$3.5/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.75/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
+$2.75/1M
Context window
128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
8k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
+120k

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save 70% with Mancer: Weaver (alpha)
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
Llama 3.1 405B$96.25 / mo
In: $43.75Out: $52.5
Mancer: Weaver (alpha)$28.75 / mo
In: $17.5Out: $11.25
Estimated Cost Delta

Mancer: Weaver (alpha) is estimated to save $67.50/month ($810/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

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    Mancer: Weaver (alpha):Pick Mancer: Weaver (alpha) when you are optimizing output cost.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsinsufficient data

Need SWE-bench on both sides.

High-volume chatMancer: Weaver (alpha)

Lower output list price ($0.75/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient data

Need TTFT on both sides.

Long-document RAGLlama 3.1 405B

Larger window (128k).

Screenshots / visionMancer: Weaver (alpha)

Mancer: Weaver (alpha) is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsinsufficient dataNeed SWE-bench on both sides.
High-volume chatMancer: Weaver (alpha)Lower output list price ($0.75/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient dataNeed TTFT on both sides.
Long-document RAGLlama 3.1 405BLarger window (128k).
Screenshots / visionMancer: Weaver (alpha)Mancer: Weaver (alpha) is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

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Llama 3.1 405B

Elo 1,370
SWE-bench58.4%
Speed (tok/s)42 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$1.25/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$3.5/1M
mancer

Mancer: Weaver (alpha)

Elo n/a
SWE-bench—
Speed (tok/s)8k
Input / 1M Tokens$0.5/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.75/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, Llama 3.1 405B or Mancer: Weaver (alpha)?
We do not have preference Elo for both models, so we do not declare an overall winner. Compare the metrics that exist.
Which is better at coding, Llama 3.1 405B or Mancer: Weaver (alpha)?
SWE-bench is missing for at least one model, so we do not rank coding from a single number.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Mancer: Weaver (alpha) output tokens are $0.75/1M versus $3.5/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, Llama 3.1 405B or Mancer: Weaver (alpha)?
We do not have TTFT for both models.
Which has the larger context window?
Llama 3.1 405B accepts 128k tokens versus 8k.
Can I self-host either model?
Llama 3.1 405B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. Llama 3.1 405B and Mancer: Weaver (alpha) Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

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