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  3. Grok 4 vs Qwen3.8 27B

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 16, 2026

Grok 4 vs Qwen3.8 27B benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, Grok 4 delivers higher overall intelligence and human-preferred responses (Elo 1,488 vs 1,398), while Qwen3.8 27B leads in SWE-bench software engineering benchmarks (58.8%), while Qwen3.8 27B is more budget-friendly at $0.4/1M per 1M output tokens. Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Choose Grok 4 if your priority is peak reasoning, complex code generation, and top preference Elo. Choose Qwen3.8 27B if you are optimizing for low latency, high throughput, and cost-efficient API deployment.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

9 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

Grok 4 (4)Qwen3.8 27B (5)
Grok 4
4 of 9 Wins
✓Preference Elo✓LiveBench✓GPQA Diamond✓Context window
Qwen3.8 27B
5 of 9 Wins
✓SWE-bench✓Time to first token✓Output speed✓Input price✓Output price
xAI
Leads 4 of 9 metrics
Grok 4

Previous xAI flagship.

Grok 4.0Elo 1,488$15/1M out
Alibaba
Leads 5 of 9 metrics
Qwen3.8 27B

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop dated Aug 14 2026. Dense enough to self-host; not a frontier MoE.

27B DenseElo 1,398$0.4/1M out

Grok 4 Series Lineage & Sibling Variants

2 models

Currently comparing Grok 4 vs Qwen3.8 27B. Alternative family tiers available.

Active: Grok 4
Grok 4.6$6
Top Rival Showdowns for Grok 4
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs GPT-5vs Gemini 3 Provs DeepSeek V4 Provs Qwen 3 Max
Preference LeaderGrok 4 Wins

Grok 4

Δ 90 Arena Elo pts

Throughput LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

152 tok/s

Value per Dollar LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

$0.4 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top Western standard models with China's leading frontier rival across 6 skill dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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Percentile 0–100
Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

Grok 4 (4)vsQwen3.8 27B (6)
Grok 4: 4W (40%)Overall: Qwen3.8 27BQwen3.8 27B: 6W (60%)
← Grok 4Qwen3.8 27B →
🏆Grok 4(3/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
Grok 4vsQwen3.8 27B
Preference Elo
1,488vs1,398+90
Coding Elo
—vs1,422
SWE-bench
58.6%vs58.8%+0.2%
LiveBench
64.1%vs60.6%+3.5%
GPQA Diamond
79%vs73.4%+5.6%
Grok 4: 3WQwen3.8 27B: 2W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
Grok 4vsQwen3.8 27B
Output speed
98 tok/svs152 tok/s+54 tok/s
Time to first token
230 msvs140 ms+90 ms
Grok 4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 2W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
Grok 4vsQwen3.8 27B
Output price
$15/1Mvs$0.4/1M+$14.6/1M
Input price
$3/1Mvs$0.1/1M+$2.9/1M
Context window
256kvs131k+125k
Grok 4: 1WQwen3.8 27B: 2W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo+90
Grok 41,488
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Coding Elo
Grok 4—
Qwen3.8 27B1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
LiveBench+3.5%
Grok 464.1%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
SWE-bench+0.2%
Grok 458.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
GPQA Diamond+5.6%
Grok 479%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Time to first token+90 ms
Grok 4230 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output speed+54 tok/s
Grok 498 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Input price+$2.9/1M
Grok 4$3/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output price+$14.6/1M
Grok 4$15/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Context window+125k
Grok 4256k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3.8 27BAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,488
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+90
Coding Elo—
1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
—
LiveBench
64.1%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+3.5%
SWE-bench
58.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+0.2%
GPQA Diamond
79%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+5.6%
Time to first token
230 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+90 ms
Output speed
98 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+54 tok/s
Input price
$3/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$2.9/1M
Output price
$15/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$14.6/1M
Context window
256k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+125k
Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 97% with Qwen3.8 27B
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
Grok 4$330.00 / mo
In: $105Out: $225
Qwen3.8 27B$9.50 / mo
In: $3.5Out: $6
Estimated Cost Delta

Qwen3.8 27B is estimated to save $320.50/month ($3,846/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.
  • 3
    Grok 4:Pick Grok 4 as the default general assistant.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsQwen3.8 27B

Higher SWE-bench (58.8%).

High-volume chatQwen3.8 27B

Lower output list price ($0.4/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27B

Lower TTFT (140 ms).

Long-document RAGGrok 4

Larger window (256k).

Screenshots / visionGrok 4

Grok 4 is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsQwen3.8 27BHigher SWE-bench (58.8%).
High-volume chatQwen3.8 27BLower output list price ($0.4/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27BLower TTFT (140 ms).
Long-document RAGGrok 4Larger window (256k).
Screenshots / visionGrok 4Grok 4 is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

View all news
launchAug 14, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop. Local/open-weight lists should see it. It will not win frontier-agents.

launchJul 10, 2025

Grok 4 remains the previous xAI flagship on this catalog

2025-07 row. 4.6 is the buy. We keep 4 so upgrade pairs and old inbound links resolve.

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Verified Head-to-Head Telemetry

LIVE BENCHMARK
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xAI

Grok 4

Elo 1,488
SWE-bench58.6%
Speed (tok/s)98 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$3/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$15/1M
Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Elo 1,398
SWE-bench58.8%
Speed (tok/s)152 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.1/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.4/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, Grok 4 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Grok 4 has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,488). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, Grok 4 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B leads SWE-bench at 58.8% vs 58.6%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Qwen3.8 27B output tokens are $0.4/1M versus $15/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, Grok 4 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B has the lower time-to-first-token (140 ms vs 230 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
Grok 4 accepts 256k tokens versus 131k.
Can I self-host either model?
Qwen3.8 27B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. Grok 4 and Qwen3.8 27B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Aug 14, 2026

    Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

  • launch · Jul 10, 2025

    Grok 4 remains the previous xAI flagship on this catalog

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