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  3. GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen3 235B

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 1, 2026

GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen3 235B benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, GPT-4.5 Orion delivers higher overall intelligence and human-preferred responses (Elo 1,540 vs 1,440), while GPT-4.5 Orion leads in SWE-bench software engineering benchmarks (71%), while Qwen3 235B is more budget-friendly at $0.88/1M per 1M output tokens. Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Choose GPT-4.5 Orion if your priority is peak reasoning, complex code generation, and top preference Elo. Choose Qwen3 235B if you are optimizing for low latency, high throughput, and cost-efficient API deployment.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

9 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

GPT-4.5 Orion (4)Qwen3 235B (5)
GPT-4.5 Orion
4 of 9 Wins
✓Preference Elo✓LiveBench✓SWE-bench✓GPQA Diamond
Qwen3 235B
5 of 9 Wins
✓Time to first token✓Output speed✓Input price✓Output price✓Context window
OpenAI
Leads 4 of 9 metrics
GPT-4.5 Orion

OpenAI largest dense non-reasoning model with expansive world knowledge and reduced hallucinations.

Elo 1,540$150/1M out
Alibaba
Leads 5 of 9 metrics
Qwen3 235B

Open-weight Qwen3 mixture-of-experts.

235B MoEElo 1,440$0.88/1M out

GPT-4 Series Lineage & Sibling Variants

3 models

Currently comparing GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen3 235B. Alternative family tiers available.

Active: GPT-4.5 Orion
GPT-4o$10GPT-4o mini$0.6
Top Rival Showdowns for GPT-4.5 Orion
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs Gemini 3 Provs Grok 4.6vs DeepSeek V4 Provs Qwen 3 Max
Preference LeaderGPT-4.5 Orion Wins

GPT-4.5 Orion

Δ 100 Arena Elo pts

Throughput LeaderQwen3 235B Wins

Qwen3 235B

74 tok/s

Value per Dollar LeaderQwen3 235B Wins

Qwen3 235B

$0.88 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top Western standard models with China's leading frontier rival across 6 skill dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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Percentile 0–100
Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

GPT-4.5 Orion (5)vsQwen3 235B (5)
GPT-4.5 Orion: 5W (50%)Overall: Even matchupQwen3 235B: 5W (50%)
← GPT-4.5 OrionQwen3 235B →
🏆GPT-4.5 Orion(5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
GPT-4.5 OrionvsQwen3 235B
Preference Elo
1,540vs1,440+100
Coding Elo
1,520vs—
SWE-bench
71%vs59.4%+11.6%
LiveBench
68.5%vs63.5%+5%
GPQA Diamond
84%vs76.8%+7.2%
GPT-4.5 Orion: 5WQwen3 235B: 0W
🏆Qwen3 235B(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
GPT-4.5 OrionvsQwen3 235B
Output speed
60 tok/svs74 tok/s+14 tok/s
Time to first token
350 msvs320 ms+30 ms
GPT-4.5 Orion: 0WQwen3 235B: 2W
🏆Qwen3 235B(3/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
GPT-4.5 OrionvsQwen3 235B
Output price
$150/1Mvs$0.88/1M+$149.12/1M
Input price
$75/1Mvs$0.22/1M+$74.78/1M
Context window
128kvs131k+3k
GPT-4.5 Orion: 0WQwen3 235B: 3W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo+100
GPT-4.5 Orion1,540
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B1,440
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Coding Elo
GPT-4.5 Orion1,520
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B—
LiveBench+5%
GPT-4.5 Orion68.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B63.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
SWE-bench+11.6%
GPT-4.5 Orion71%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B59.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
GPQA Diamond+7.2%
GPT-4.5 Orion84%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B76.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Time to first token+30 ms
GPT-4.5 Orion350 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B320 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Output speed+14 tok/s
GPT-4.5 Orion60 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B74 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Input price+$74.78/1M
GPT-4.5 Orion$75/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B$0.22/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Output price+$149.12/1M
GPT-4.5 Orion$150/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B$0.88/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Context window+3k
GPT-4.5 Orion128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3 235B131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
BenchmarkGPT-4.5 OrionQwen3 235BAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,540
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
1,440
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+100
Coding Elo
1,520
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
——
LiveBench
68.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
63.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+5%
SWE-bench
71%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
59.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+11.6%
GPQA Diamond
84%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
76.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+7.2%
Time to first token
350 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
320 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+30 ms
Output speed
60 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
74 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+14 tok/s
Input price
$75/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.22/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+$74.78/1M
Output price
$150/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.88/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+$149.12/1M
Context window
128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+3k
Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 100% with Qwen3 235B
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
GPT-4.5 Orion$4,875.00 / mo
In: $2,625Out: $2,250
Qwen3 235B$20.90 / mo
In: $7.7Out: $13.2
Estimated Cost Delta

Qwen3 235B is estimated to save $4,854.10/month ($58,249/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    GPT-4.5 Orion:Pick GPT-4.5 Orion when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Qwen3 235B:Pick Qwen3 235B when you are optimizing output cost.
  • 3
    Qwen3 235B:Pick Qwen3 235B when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsGPT-4.5 Orion

Higher SWE-bench (71%).

High-volume chatQwen3 235B

Lower output list price ($0.88/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIQwen3 235B

Lower TTFT (320 ms).

Long-document RAGQwen3 235B

Larger window (131k).

Screenshots / visionGPT-4.5 Orion

GPT-4.5 Orion is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsGPT-4.5 OrionHigher SWE-bench (71%).
High-volume chatQwen3 235BLower output list price ($0.88/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIQwen3 235BLower TTFT (320 ms).
Long-document RAGQwen3 235BLarger window (131k).
Screenshots / visionGPT-4.5 OrionGPT-4.5 Orion is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

View all news
launchSep 20, 2025

Qwen3 235B: the open MoE Qwen, not the Max SKU

Sep 2025 open-weight mixture-of-experts. Self-host path. Don’t confuse it with Qwen 3 Max.

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Verified Head-to-Head Telemetry

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GPT-4.5 Orion

Elo 1,540
SWE-bench71%
Speed (tok/s)60 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$75/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$150/1M
Alibaba

Qwen3 235B

Elo 1,440
SWE-bench59.4%
Speed (tok/s)74 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.22/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.88/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen3 235B?
GPT-4.5 Orion has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,540). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen3 235B?
GPT-4.5 Orion leads SWE-bench at 71% vs 59.4%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Qwen3 235B output tokens are $0.88/1M versus $150/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen3 235B?
Qwen3 235B has the lower time-to-first-token (320 ms vs 350 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
Qwen3 235B accepts 131k tokens versus 128k.
Can I self-host either model?
Qwen3 235B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. GPT-4.5 Orion and Qwen3 235B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Sep 20, 2025

    Qwen3 235B: the open MoE Qwen, not the Max SKU

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