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Qwen3 235B: the open MoE Qwen, not the Max SKU
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CompareLLM Intelligence Desk·Sep 20, 2025

Qwen3 235B: the open MoE Qwen, not the Max SKU

Sep 2025 open-weight mixture-of-experts. Self-host path. Don’t confuse it with Qwen 3 Max.

Search intent: qwen3 235b vs max

Evaluated Models (2):
Qwen3 235BAlibaba
Qwen 3 MaxAlibaba
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Verified Benchmark Scorecard2 Models Evaluated

Qwen3 235B vs Qwen 3 Max: Live Benchmark Matchup

Live benchmark scores, throughput speeds, and token pricing with dynamic peer comparison.

Full Head-to-Head
LMSYS Arena Elo1,440Qwen3 235B
SWE-bench Verified59.4%Coding resolve %
Throughput Speed74 tok/sGeneration rate
Output Price / 1M$1.82List API rate

53% Output Token Cost Advantage

Qwen3 235B costs $1.82 / 1M tokens compared to Qwen 3 Max at $3.90 / 1M tokens ($2.08/1M tokens difference).

Interactive Model Comparison:2 models selected
Qwen3 235BArticleQwen 3 MaxArticle
LMSYS Arena EloOverall human preference
quality
Qwen3 235B
1,440
Qwen 3 MaxTop
1,518
Coding EloProgramming preference
quality
Qwen3 235B
—
Qwen 3 MaxTop
1,526
SWE-bench VerifiedGitHub issue resolve %
quality
Qwen3 235B
59.4%
Qwen 3 MaxTop
67.8%
GPQA DiamondPhD-level science reasoning %
quality
Qwen3 235B
76.8%
Qwen 3 MaxTop
83.1%
LiveBenchContamination-free reasoning
quality
Qwen3 235B
63.5%
Qwen 3 MaxTop
69.4%
Throughput (Speed)Output tokens / second
speed
Qwen3 235B
74 tok/s
Qwen 3 MaxTop
80 tok/s
Time-to-First-TokenInitial latency (ms)
speed
Qwen3 235B
320 ms
Qwen 3 MaxTop
280 ms
Output Token Price$ per 1M reply tokens
price
Qwen3 235BTop
$1.82/1M
Qwen 3 Max
$3.9/1M
Input Token Price$ per 1M prompt tokens
price
Qwen3 235BTop
$0.455/1M
Qwen 3 Max
$0.78/1M
Context WindowMax token capacity
capacity
Qwen3 235B
131k
Qwen 3 MaxTop
262k
Benchmark / Metric
Qwen3 235BAlibaba · Article Model
Qwen 3 MaxAlibaba · Article Model
LMSYS Arena EloOverall human preference
1,440
1,518Top
Coding EloProgramming preference
—
1,526Top
SWE-bench VerifiedGitHub issue resolve %
59.4%
67.8%Top
GPQA DiamondPhD-level science reasoning %
76.8%
83.1%Top
LiveBenchContamination-free reasoning
63.5%
69.4%Top
Throughput (Speed)Output tokens / second
74 tok/s
80 tok/sTop
Time-to-First-TokenInitial latency (ms)
320 ms
280 msTop
Output Token Price$ per 1M reply tokens
$1.82/1MTop
$3.9/1M
Input Token Price$ per 1M prompt tokens
$0.455/1MTop
$0.78/1M
Context WindowMax token capacity
131k
262kTop
Executive Key Takeaway
Sep 2025 open-weight mixture-of-experts. Self-host path. Don’t confuse it with Qwen 3 Max.

Qwen3 235B is the open-weight mixture-of-experts Qwen. Qwen 3 Max is the closed flagship. Mixing the names is how people buy the wrong API. The pair page exists so “is Max worth it over the open MoE?” has dated Elo, SWE-bench, and list price.

MoE hosting cost is not in the table

List $/1M is a hosted API guess. Self-hosting 235B is a cluster invoice. We will not pretend the cell is your AWS bill.

Empirical Evaluation & Architectural Analysis

Standardized telemetry recorded in the verified CompareLLM Leaderboards captures distinct architectural priorities between Qwen3 235B and Qwen 3 Max. While blind human pairwise preference testing reflects instruction compliance and reasoning depth, domain-specific suites such as SWE-bench Verified and GPQA Diamond highlight coding execution and advanced STEM reasoning. For the live pairwise breakdown with historical trendlines, reference the interactive scorecard above or visit the Qwen3 235B vs Qwen 3 Max Showdown.

Open-weights-reasoning preset

If you filtered to open only, 235B and Llama 4 and Kimi K3 are the usual neighborhood. Rank them on the preset, then license.

Strategic Deployment Recommendation

  • Production Workloads: For enterprise workloads requiring strict reliability, cross-reference Top Coding LLMs and Cheapest High-Quality LLMs.
  • Direct Pair Comparison: Explore the live pairwise breakdown at /compare/qwen-3-235b-vs-qwen-3-max.
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What primary search query does this briefing answer? qwen3 235b vs max.

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Head-to-Head Showdowns for Mentioned Models

Featured Article ShowdownQwen3 235B vs Qwen 3 Max
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Benchmark MatchupQwen3 235B vs Claude Opus 4.5
Benchmark MatchupQwen3 235B vs Claude Opus 4.6
Benchmark MatchupQwen 3 Max vs Claude Opus 4.5
Benchmark MatchupQwen 3 Max vs Claude Opus 4.6

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