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  3. Qwen3.8 27B vs Seed 2.1 Turbo

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 17, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B vs Seed 2.1 Turbo benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, Seed 2.1 Turbo delivers higher overall intelligence and human-preferred responses (Elo 1,472 vs 1,398), while Seed 2.1 Turbo leads in SWE-bench software engineering benchmarks (63.2%), while Seed 2.1 Turbo is more budget-friendly at $2.5/1M per 1M output tokens. Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Seed 2.1 Turbo holds the advantage over Qwen3.8 27B in overall benchmark performance and human evaluation rankings. Choose Seed 2.1 Turbo for demanding workloads, or review the breakdown below to compare coding and pricing metrics.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

9 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

Qwen3.8 27B (1)Seed 2.1 Turbo (8)
Qwen3.8 27B
1 of 9 Wins
✓Input price
Seed 2.1 Turbo
8 of 9 Wins
✓Preference Elo✓Coding Elo✓LiveBench✓SWE-bench✓GPQA Diamond✓Time to first token✓Output speed✓Output price
Alibaba
Leads 1 of 9 metrics
Qwen3.8 27B

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop dated Aug 14 2026. Dense enough to self-host; not a frontier MoE.

27B DenseElo 1,398$3.1999999999999997/1M out
ByteDance
Leads 8 of 9 metrics
Seed 2.1 Turbo

ByteDance Seed 2.1 Turbo, listed on public model timelines as an Aug 10 2026 API drop.

Seed 2.1Elo 1,472$2.5/1M out

Qwen 3 Series Lineage & Sibling Variants

4 models

Currently comparing Qwen3.8 27B vs Seed 2.1 Turbo. Alternative family tiers available.

Active: Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen 3 Max$3.9Qwen3 235B$1.82Qwen QwQ 32B$1.2
Top Rival Showdowns for Qwen3.8 27B
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs GPT-5vs Gemini 3 Provs Grok 4.6vs DeepSeek V4 Pro
Preference LeaderSeed 2.1 Turbo Wins

Seed 2.1 Turbo

Δ 74 Arena Elo pts

Throughput LeaderSeed 2.1 Turbo Wins

Seed 2.1 Turbo

160 tok/s

Value per Dollar LeaderSeed 2.1 Turbo Wins

Seed 2.1 Turbo

$2.5 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top Western standard models with China's leading frontier rival across 6 skill dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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0–100 %ile
Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

Qwen3.8 27B (1)vsSeed 2.1 Turbo (8)
Qwen3.8 27B: 1W (11%)Overall: Seed 2.1 TurboSeed 2.1 Turbo: 8W (89%)
← Qwen3.8 27B1 tiesSeed 2.1 Turbo →
🏆Seed 2.1 Turbo(5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
Qwen3.8 27BvsSeed 2.1 Turbo
Preference Elo
1,398vs1,472+74
Coding Elo
1,422vs1,480+58
SWE-bench
58.8%vs63.2%+4.4%
LiveBench
60.6%vs64.8%+4.2%
GPQA Diamond
73.4%vs76.8%+3.4%
Qwen3.8 27B: 0WSeed 2.1 Turbo: 5W
🏆Seed 2.1 Turbo(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
Qwen3.8 27BvsSeed 2.1 Turbo
Output speed
152 tok/svs160 tok/s+8 tok/s
Time to first token
140 msvs120 ms+20 ms
Qwen3.8 27B: 0WSeed 2.1 Turbo: 2W
Tied (1-1)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
Qwen3.8 27BvsSeed 2.1 Turbo
Output price
$3.2/1Mvs$2.5/1M+$0.7/1M
Input price
$0.45/1Mvs$0.5/1M+$0.05/1M
Context window
262kvs262k
Qwen3.8 27B: 1WSeed 2.1 Turbo: 1W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo+74
Qwen3.8 27B1,398
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo1,472
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
Coding Elo+58
Qwen3.8 27B1,422
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo1,480
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
LiveBench+4.2%
Qwen3.8 27B60.6%
livebench · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo64.8%
livebench · Aug 16, 2026
SWE-bench+4.4%
Qwen3.8 27B58.8%
swebench · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo63.2%
swebench · Aug 16, 2026
GPQA Diamond+3.4%
Qwen3.8 27B73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo76.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Time to first token+20 ms
Qwen3.8 27B140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo120 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output speed+8 tok/s
Qwen3.8 27B152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo160 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Input price+$0.05/1M
Qwen3.8 27B$0.45/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo$0.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Output price+$0.7/1M
Qwen3.8 27B$3.2/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo$2.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Context window
Qwen3.8 27B262k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Seed 2.1 Turbo262k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
BenchmarkQwen3.8 27BSeed 2.1 TurboAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,398
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
1,472
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
+74
Coding Elo
1,422
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
1,480
lmarena · Aug 16, 2026
+58
LiveBench
60.6%
livebench · Aug 16, 2026
64.8%
livebench · Aug 16, 2026
+4.2%
SWE-bench
58.8%
swebench · Aug 16, 2026
63.2%
swebench · Aug 16, 2026
+4.4%
GPQA Diamond
73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
76.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+3.4%
Time to first token
140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
120 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+20 ms
Output speed
152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
160 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+8 tok/s
Input price
$0.45/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
$0.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
+$0.05/1M
Output price
$3.2/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
$2.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
+$0.7/1M
Context window
262k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
262k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
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Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 14% with Seed 2.1 Turbo
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
Qwen3.8 27B$63.75 / mo
In: $15.75Out: $48
Seed 2.1 Turbo$55.00 / mo
In: $17.5Out: $37.5
Estimated Cost Delta

Seed 2.1 Turbo is estimated to save $8.75/month ($105/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    Seed 2.1 Turbo:Pick Seed 2.1 Turbo when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Seed 2.1 Turbo:Pick Seed 2.1 Turbo when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.
  • 3
    Seed 2.1 Turbo:Pick Seed 2.1 Turbo as the default general assistant.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsSeed 2.1 Turbo

Higher SWE-bench (63.2%).

High-volume chatSeed 2.1 Turbo

Lower output list price ($2.5/1M).

Voice / low-latency UISeed 2.1 Turbo

Lower TTFT (120 ms).

Long-document RAGQwen3.8 27B

Larger window (262k).

Screenshots / visionSeed 2.1 Turbo

Seed 2.1 Turbo is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsSeed 2.1 TurboHigher SWE-bench (63.2%).
High-volume chatSeed 2.1 TurboLower output list price ($2.5/1M).
Voice / low-latency UISeed 2.1 TurboLower TTFT (120 ms).
Long-document RAGQwen3.8 27BLarger window (262k).
Screenshots / visionSeed 2.1 TurboSeed 2.1 Turbo is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

View all news
launchAug 14, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop. Local/open-weight lists should see it. It will not win frontier-agents.

launchAug 10, 2026

Seed 2.1 Turbo (Aug 10): ByteDance’s API drop on the public timeline

Listed on public model timelines as an Aug 10 2026 API drop. Preview-quality story, indexable because we have a full snapshot.

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Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Elo 1,398
SWE-bench58.8%
Speed (tok/s)152 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.45/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$3.2/1M
ByteDance

Seed 2.1 Turbo

Elo 1,472
SWE-bench63.2%
Speed (tok/s)160 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.5/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$2.5/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, Qwen3.8 27B or Seed 2.1 Turbo?
Seed 2.1 Turbo has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,472). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, Qwen3.8 27B or Seed 2.1 Turbo?
Seed 2.1 Turbo leads SWE-bench at 63.2% vs 58.8%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Seed 2.1 Turbo output tokens are $2.5/1M versus $3.2/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, Qwen3.8 27B or Seed 2.1 Turbo?
Seed 2.1 Turbo has the lower time-to-first-token (120 ms vs 140 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
Qwen3.8 27B accepts 262k tokens versus 262k.
Can I self-host either model?
Qwen3.8 27B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. Qwen3.8 27B and Seed 2.1 Turbo Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Aug 14, 2026

    Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

  • launch · Aug 10, 2026

    Seed 2.1 Turbo (Aug 10): ByteDance’s API drop on the public timeline

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