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  3. Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8 27B

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 16, 2026

Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8 27B benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, Kimi K3 delivers higher overall intelligence and human-preferred responses (Elo 1,528 vs 1,398), while Kimi K3 leads in SWE-bench software engineering benchmarks (73.8%), while Qwen3.8 27B is more budget-friendly at $0.4/1M per 1M output tokens. Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Choose Kimi K3 if your priority is peak reasoning, complex code generation, and top preference Elo. Choose Qwen3.8 27B if you are optimizing for low latency, high throughput, and cost-efficient API deployment.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

10 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

Kimi K3 (6)Qwen3.8 27B (4)
Kimi K3
6 of 10 Wins
✓Preference Elo✓Coding Elo✓LiveBench✓SWE-bench✓GPQA Diamond✓Context window
Qwen3.8 27B
4 of 10 Wins
✓Time to first token✓Output speed✓Input price✓Output price
Moonshot
Leads 6 of 10 metrics
Kimi K3

Moonshot AI frontier flagship reasoning and agent swarm model with 256k context and top-tier SWE-bench coding capability.

Elo 1,528$2.5/1M out
Alibaba
Leads 4 of 10 metrics
Qwen3.8 27B

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop dated Aug 14 2026. Dense enough to self-host; not a frontier MoE.

27B DenseElo 1,398$0.4/1M out

Kimi Series Lineage & Sibling Variants

4 models

Currently comparing Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8 27B. Alternative family tiers available.

Active: Kimi K3
Kimi K2.5 Max$2Kimi K2$1.4Kimi Chat 1.5$0.8

Kimi K3 Thinking Depth & Cost Scaler

Model A

Simulate accuracy gains vs added response time & token cost

Mode: Medium (Deep Reasoning)

Reasoning models “think before answering” by generating internal reasoning tokens. Higher effort improves math, coding, and logic accuracy, but increases response delay and token costs.

Thinking Delay
290 ms
Standard speed
Reasoning Depth
~2,500
Internal tokens
Cost / 1k Calls
$7.30
7.0× standard bill
Accuracy Boost
+5.5% accuracy
STEM & SWE-bench
Top Rival Showdowns for Kimi K3
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs GPT-5vs Gemini 3 Provs Grok 4.6vs DeepSeek V4 Pro
Preference LeaderKimi K3 Wins

Kimi K3

Δ 130 Arena Elo pts

Throughput LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

152 tok/s

Value per Dollar LeaderQwen3.8 27B Wins

Qwen3.8 27B

$0.4 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

Comparing top Western standard models with China's leading frontier rival across 6 skill dimensions. Tap any spoke or dot to inspect.

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Percentile 0–100
Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

Kimi K3 (6)vsQwen3.8 27B (4)
Kimi K3: 6W (60%)Overall: Kimi K3Qwen3.8 27B: 4W (40%)
← Kimi K3Qwen3.8 27B →
🏆Kimi K3(5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
Kimi K3vsQwen3.8 27B
Preference Elo
1,528vs1,398+130
Coding Elo
1,535vs1,422+113
SWE-bench
73.8%vs58.8%+15%
LiveBench
69.5%vs60.6%+8.9%
GPQA Diamond
88.4%vs73.4%+15%
Kimi K3: 5WQwen3.8 27B: 0W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
Kimi K3vsQwen3.8 27B
Output speed
68 tok/svs152 tok/s+84 tok/s
Time to first token
290 msvs140 ms+150 ms
Kimi K3: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 2W
🏆Qwen3.8 27B(2/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
Kimi K3vsQwen3.8 27B
Output price
$2.5/1Mvs$0.4/1M+$2.1/1M
Input price
$0.6/1Mvs$0.1/1M+$0.5/1M
Context window
262kvs131k+131k
Kimi K3: 1WQwen3.8 27B: 2W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo+130
Kimi K31,528
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Coding Elo+113
Kimi K31,535
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
LiveBench+8.9%
Kimi K369.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
SWE-bench+15%
Kimi K373.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
GPQA Diamond+15%
Kimi K388.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Time to first token+150 ms
Kimi K3290 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output speed+84 tok/s
Kimi K368 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Input price+$0.5/1M
Kimi K3$0.6/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Output price+$2.1/1M
Kimi K3$2.5/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
Context window+131k
Kimi K3262k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Qwen3.8 27B131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
BenchmarkKimi K3Qwen3.8 27BAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo
1,528
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
1,398
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+130
Coding Elo
1,535
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
1,422
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+113
LiveBench
69.5%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
60.6%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+8.9%
SWE-bench
73.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
58.8%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+15%
GPQA Diamond
88.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
73.4%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+15%
Time to first token
290 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
140 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+150 ms
Output speed
68 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
152 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+84 tok/s
Input price
$0.6/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.1/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$0.5/1M
Output price
$2.5/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
$0.4/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+$2.1/1M
Context window
262k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
131k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 16, 2026
+131k
Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 84% with Qwen3.8 27B
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
Kimi K3$58.50 / mo
In: $21Out: $37.5
Qwen3.8 27B$9.50 / mo
In: $3.5Out: $6
Estimated Cost Delta

Qwen3.8 27B is estimated to save $49.00/month ($588/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    Kimi K3:Pick Kimi K3 when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when you are optimizing output cost.
  • 3
    Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsKimi K3

Higher SWE-bench (73.8%).

High-volume chatQwen3.8 27B

Lower output list price ($0.4/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27B

Lower TTFT (140 ms).

Long-document RAGKimi K3

Larger window (262k).

Screenshots / visionKimi K3

Kimi K3 is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsKimi K3Higher SWE-bench (73.8%).
High-volume chatQwen3.8 27BLower output list price ($0.4/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIQwen3.8 27BLower TTFT (140 ms).
Long-document RAGKimi K3Larger window (262k).
Screenshots / visionKimi K3Kimi K3 is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

View all news
launchAug 14, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop. Local/open-weight lists should see it. It will not win frontier-agents.

launchJun 8, 2026

Kimi K3: Moonshot’s long-context open-weight competitive row

Jun 2026. The Kimi vs GPT hub remaps to the top Moonshot Elo vs top OpenAI Elo.

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LIVE BENCHMARK
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Moonshot

Kimi K3

Elo 1,528
SWE-bench73.8%
Speed (tok/s)68 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.6/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$2.5/1M
Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Elo 1,398
SWE-bench58.8%
Speed (tok/s)152 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$0.1/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.4/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, Kimi K3 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Kimi K3 has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,528). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, Kimi K3 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Kimi K3 leads SWE-bench at 73.8% vs 58.8%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Qwen3.8 27B output tokens are $0.4/1M versus $2.5/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, Kimi K3 or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B has the lower time-to-first-token (140 ms vs 290 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
Kimi K3 accepts 262k tokens versus 131k.
Can I self-host either model?
Qwen3.8 27B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. Kimi K3 and Qwen3.8 27B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Aug 14, 2026

    Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

  • launch · Jun 8, 2026

    Kimi K3: Moonshot’s long-context open-weight competitive row

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