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  3. TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 vs Llama 3.1 405B

Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 17, 2026noindex (thin pair)

TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 vs Llama 3.1 405B benchmark

In this head-to-head showdown, TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 is more budget-friendly at $0.5/1M per 1M output tokens. Review the complete breakdown below to determine which model best fits your performance and budget requirements.

Executive Comparison Verdict

Bottom Line: Both TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 and Llama 3.1 405B present distinct architectural strengths. Compare the verified benchmark matrix below to choose the model tailored to your specific application requirements.
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Verified Head-to-Head Advantage Breakdown

3 direct benchmark disciplines evaluated across capability, speed, and cost

TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 (3)Llama 3.1 405B (0)
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1
3 of 3 Wins
✓Input price✓Output price✓Context window
Llama 3.1 405B
0 of 3 Wins
Competitive baseline across remaining benchmarks
thedrummer
Leads 3 of 3 metrics
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1

Auto-discovered from OpenRouter (thedrummer/cydonia-24b-v4.1). Preview until a second source matches.

$0.5/1M out
Meta
Llama 3.1 405B

Meta flagship open-weight 405B dense foundation model with 128k context window.

Elo 1,370$3.5/1M out
Top Rival Showdowns for TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1
All Matchups
Compare vs:vs Claude Opus 4.5vs GPT-5vs Gemini 3 Provs Grok 4.6vs DeepSeek V4 Pro
Preference Leader

No shared data

Single model data

Throughput Leader

No shared data

No latency data

Value per Dollar LeaderTheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 Wins

TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1

$0.5 / 1M output

Capability Percentiles

Relative percentile scores computed across all active models in the benchmark catalog.

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Leaders Matchup Capability Radar

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Head-to-Head Comparison

Overall Matchup Breakdown

Category wins across reasoning intelligence, generation speed, and token cost.

TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 (3)vsLlama 3.1 405B (7)
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1: 3W (30%)Overall: Llama 3.1 405BLlama 3.1 405B: 7W (70%)
← TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1Llama 3.1 405B →
🏆Llama 3.1 405B(5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Benchmark
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1vsLlama 3.1 405B
Preference Elo
—vs1,370
Coding Elo
—vs1,385
SWE-bench
—vs58.4%
LiveBench
—vs61.2%
GPQA Diamond
—vs75.2%
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1: 0WLlama 3.1 405B: 5W
🏆Llama 3.1 405B(2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Benchmark
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1vsLlama 3.1 405B
Output speed
—vs42 tok/s
Time to first token
—vs360 ms
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1: 0WLlama 3.1 405B: 2W
🏆TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1(3/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Benchmark
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1vsLlama 3.1 405B
Output price
$0.5/1Mvs$3.5/1M+$3/1M
Input price
$0.3/1Mvs$1.25/1M+$0.95/1M
Context window
131kvs128k+3k
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1: 3WLlama 3.1 405B: 0W

Side-by-Side Benchmark Matrix

Preference Elo
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B1,370
lmarena · Aug 17, 2026
Coding Elo
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B1,385
lmarena · Aug 17, 2026
LiveBench
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B61.2%
livebench · Aug 17, 2026
SWE-bench
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B58.4%
swebench · Aug 17, 2026
GPQA Diamond
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B75.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Time to first token
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B360 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Output speed
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1—
Llama 3.1 405B42 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Input price+$0.95/1M
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1$0.3/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Llama 3.1 405B$1.25/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Output price+$3/1M
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1$0.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Llama 3.1 405B$3.5/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
Context window+3k
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1131k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
Llama 3.1 405B128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
BenchmarkTheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1Llama 3.1 405BAdvantage Delta
Preference Elo—
1,370
lmarena · Aug 17, 2026
—
Coding Elo—
1,385
lmarena · Aug 17, 2026
—
LiveBench—
61.2%
livebench · Aug 17, 2026
—
SWE-bench—
58.4%
swebench · Aug 17, 2026
—
GPQA Diamond—
75.2%
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
—
Time to first token—
360 ms
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
—
Output speed—
42 tok/s
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
—
Input price
$0.3/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
$1.25/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+$0.95/1M
Output price
$0.5/1M
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
$3.5/1M
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+$3/1M
Context window
131k
openrouter · Aug 17, 2026
128k
seed-bootstrap · Aug 1, 2026
+3k
Interactive Simulator (USD)

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 81% with TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1$18.00 / mo
In: $10.5Out: $7.5
Llama 3.1 405B$96.25 / mo
In: $43.75Out: $52.5
Estimated Cost Delta

TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 is estimated to save $78.25/month ($939/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

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    TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1:Pick TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 when you are optimizing output cost.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsinsufficient data

Need SWE-bench on both sides.

High-volume chatTheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1

Lower output list price ($0.5/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient data

Need TTFT on both sides.

Long-document RAGTheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1

Larger window (131k).

Screenshots / visionLlama 3.1 405B

Llama 3.1 405B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsinsufficient dataNeed SWE-bench on both sides.
High-volume chatTheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1Lower output list price ($0.5/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient dataNeed TTFT on both sides.
Long-document RAGTheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1Larger window (131k).
Screenshots / visionLlama 3.1 405BLlama 3.1 405B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.
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TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1

Elo n/a
SWE-bench—
Speed (tok/s)131k
Input / 1M Tokens$0.3/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$0.5/1M
Meta

Llama 3.1 405B

Elo 1,370
SWE-bench58.4%
Speed (tok/s)42 tok/s
Input / 1M Tokens$1.25/1M
Output / 1M Tokens$3.5/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 or Llama 3.1 405B?
We do not have preference Elo for both models, so we do not declare an overall winner. Compare the metrics that exist.
Which is better at coding, TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 or Llama 3.1 405B?
SWE-bench is missing for at least one model, so we do not rank coding from a single number.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 output tokens are $0.5/1M versus $3.5/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 or Llama 3.1 405B?
We do not have TTFT for both models.
Which has the larger context window?
TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 accepts 131k tokens versus 128k.
Can I self-host either model?
Llama 3.1 405B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. TheDrummer: Cydonia 24B V4.1 and Llama 3.1 405B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

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